Poppycock; the .357 Magnum is one of the best rounds for personal defense out there. 1. No one currently makes guns chambered in the cartridge.Looking back on the whole incident is very interesting, and there is much to be learned. Hard to beat real world experience which is mainly what this site consists of. Shipping to your FFL by insured FedEx Ground will be $45.
We were amazed at the penetration. $2.92. Ps should've gone with 26" would be better. One of the best, if not, the best little caliber you would ever want ! Bare essentials. Yes, tactical Virginia, you can put a red dot on a lever gun. It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. Thats exactly the sort of info i was looking for. 20170926..35Cal.190gr.Fury.Jug.Test - Copy1.jpg, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2t-barrel-length-muzzle-velocity-and-accuracy/, https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/bullets/rifle-bullets/hot-cor-rifle-bullet/2435, https://matchgrademachine.com/encore-contender-357-magnum-maximum-load-development-results/, http://hawkbullets.com/bullet-selection.html, https://cuttingedgebullets.com/shop/ets?caliber=43, http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/WPHandloading-Guide-7.0-Web-REV.pdf. This is a high-class place so act respectable. I got a 336BL a couple years ago and I have no complaints. rifle is 17.1gr. someguy2800, Jul 12, 2019 #7 Eagle 17 and Bfh_auto like this. The regular Marlin 1894C is priced at around $700. It brings the 38+p up to mid-range 357 revolver ballistics (~1250). Several years back I wanted a light weight all weather stainless steel single shot rifle chambered in 357 magnum, and the Rossi was the answer. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. Here's the 357 Maximum story: Back in the 1980's there was a silhouette competition for pistols out to 200 yards. I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. My findings are three of us used 357 mag out of 2 Rossi lever at 20 inch and one Marlin with 16.25 to hunt blacktails and elk. A lever gun would be a really fun toy for me. marcJ (author) from Mid-MO on July 21, 2015: After becoming accustomed to the cartridge and it's range of uses, I too couldn't believe it never caught on commercially. If you have to use a long-action gun to create a .357 Maximum, then the other easier way to get the .358" bullet going that fast, is just to use a .35 Remington chambered 'factory' levergun. They should come from the factory that way. Through my industry connections, I heard plenty of finger-pointing about metallurgy and propellant choices, but the ultimate outcome was that the revolver market for this cartridge simply dried up. The .357 Maximum was initially chambered in the Ruger Blackhawk in 1983 and was for a time adopted by other handgun manufactures. lets say it was well used and not maintained. Optimum overall rifle performance is 2300 to 2400 fps with 180 gr. The big problem for me was the shape of the Contender grip which caused my hand to shake after just a few shots. The 1892 is a top-ejecting model so scopes or rails are out, but the point of this gun is to be a fast-handling, medium-range rifle. In addition to the 180-grain bullet, Speer makes a 220-grain FN that will exceed 1,500 fps in a 14-inch Contender, and Hornady and Sierra both make 200-grain RN versions that should reach 1,600 to 1,650 fps. Accepted Payment Methods: Returns: 3 Days Very accurate, which makes it very deadly. Looks like they replaced my hammer with a used part and there is some marks on the front sight hood that werent there before. The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. Most of all it looks cool and reminds me of the good old days when guns were all made from steel and wood instead of plastic. Thats relevance! This gun has a hardwood stock and forend, case colored receiver, and 22" barrel. Night and day in service and I didnt have to wait over a month. Max. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. .357 Maximum when loaded down in a rifle length barrel is almost like shooting an air rifle. You can also put ketchup on a hot dog, but you shouldnt. Many Max shooters (myself included) find poor accuracy with magnum cases. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. Lack of inventory isnt relevance in modern times. You can shoot 357 Mags through it. No such thing as a perfect caliber, but .357 magnum and its sister the .357sig is about as close as one can get. It fails to cause antis to have uncontrollable, explosive decompression of the space inside the colon? While Ive never loaded brass I have loaded shotshells on a card table in the living room with a mec 650. Most 350 Legend bullets have a higher sectional density which means more penetration than the .357 Magnum. You can also get your lever action fix without breaking the bank on ammunition .357 Remington is cheaper than .30-30 and without breaking your shoulder, as a .45-70 will make you black rifle boys soil yourselves and cry for your mommas. Mine was made in about 2005, for what its worth. The .357 Maximum was an effort to give you .357 Magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. Model 1873 and cowboyskinda synonymous. The .357 Maximum went away. While the cartridge produces around 1200 ft/lbs of energy, which is more than a .44 Magnum, it also has less recoil. Worried about scratching that brass? So if you want to shoot Max, Mag, and Specials; it is best to get a single shot. Once that word gets around, Henry and Brazilian made Rossi levers, and even Uberti and other Italian made Lever guns will gain more of the market share. 05-25-2020 . Jim Rhodes Greenville, Al. I still have a safe full of ARs, but thinking this Marlin is going to be seeing a lot more range time than they will. What I found odd or maybe not is that after all the semi automatic handguns, rifles and pump action shotguns were gone no one was buying lever actions. The least amount of trouble would be to buy a 35 Remmington and be done with it. Also, those hotter loaded ammunitions usually over boast about their velocity. https://leeprecision.com/lee-loader-45-70-govt.html. A friend has suggested my neophyte inquiry might find assistance here: C2N14 because life is not energetic enough. Have you tried hand-loading and experimenting with overall length? Lite recoil and is deadly. Slip Top 50 Red Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. (Photo: Winchester) Note the 1/4" groups with .358" bullets in their .358" cylindrical throat and only slightly larger groups with .357" bullets, Copyright 2023 .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA, New Custom Made Barrels by Match Grade Machine. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. Yes, they can, of course, be fired farther, but the design, mass and speed of the bullets are what really determine effective range. We used Small Rifle primers for all load data, and they did fine with the propellants we tested. The most Fun guns I own. Forgot to add. . A .357 bang stick would certainly be cheaper to keep fed for silhouette shooting vs my Henry in 45 Colt. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum .357 Maximum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #1 Lyman #1 RCBS #6 Recipe Type: Pistol Bullet Weight: ALL 100 gr 110 gr 125 gr 140 gr 158 gr 165 gr 170 gr 180 gr 200 gr Powder: ALL Accurate 1680 Accurate 4100 Accurate 5744 Hodgdon CFE BLK Hodgdon H110 Hodgdon Lil'Gun The hole in the barrel and tube could not be repaired but were near the ends, so he shortened and crowned the barrel, put in a new mag tube spring. I really do want a .357 levergunbut Im perfectly confident in my .30-30. The advantage I see to 357 max is you use 357 mag carbide reloading dies so it is easier to reload and no trimming. This permits me to throat the MAGnum barrel with a proper minimum diameter cylindrical throat that: Given a long minimum diameter throat, a MAGnum gives better accuracy with standard MAG ammo for those wanting to shoot .357 MAGnum and .38 Special loads while also being able to essentially duplicating .350 Legend factory loadings. There is an issue in how the hammer and bolt are aligned. by bgmkithaca Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:18 pm, Post by stretch Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:47 pm, Post My Marlin feeds .38 Special just fine but has a tendency to hang up on .357 Mag rounds (no matter the bullet type, it seems to be an OAL issue.). A heavily worn gun that had been drilled vertically thru the buttstock, the barrel, magazine tube and lag-bolted across beams in the ceiling of some bar in northern Arizona. Similar to the Critter You Are Hunting Effect. Having fired several different types and CARRIED them in the Military, I much prefer the simple and traditional bolt-actions, levers and semi-autos that American hunters have carried for generations. The amount of money, time and effort and the increased lever throw places a 357 Maximum lever gun so far down my list that it will never happen for me. No, the article actually shows period photos of guys wearing cross slings with clips on the end that attached to the rifle, so they could let it dangle by their legs.
I had only seen photos (prints?) 8,125. You can find ammo, and buy it if you can afford it. I know jack-all about lever guns except what I saw on The Rifleman growing up. but I can welcome You to the forum. Check out ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html and ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html. At least try it with used reloading equipment, one or or two sets of dies. Citadel Levtac-92 .357 Magnum Tactical-Lever! But I just couldnt ever wrap my brain around spending enough on a lever action to buy two or three semi-auto rifles. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gunsmith-review-wild-west-guns-marlin-rescue-project/, Not a .357, but a Rossi lever. In an effort to keep the playing field dead level for all competitors, they rigidly adhered to the no-modification standard. Its a copy of the Winchester 1892 made by Miroku for Browning. That stands for International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association. Henry is close with SPX but went plastic stock.DOH! If the .35 Rem is legal where you're at, and you're wanting to build a bolt-action, I would probably go that route, as brass and ammo is much easier found than .357 Maximum brass and load data. Not question those who do or did so, cause theres something special about shooting a lever action. I know both of these are on the cheap side but the fun my kids and I have when we bring this to the range is priceless. Great for when wearing gloves. Of course, you can also get the original Winchester carbine, the Winchester 1873. Even if production revolvers missed the test barrel velocities by 200 fps, they produced enough muzzle velocity to achieve good terminal performance from softpoints giving better penetration. Its a great shooter, almost no recoil with any .357 or .38 load and it looks good hanging on my wall. *We Never share your email without your permission. At only 6 lbs, it can easily be carried in the handwhich you have to do since it lacks sling studs. They tried fixing it with a (I think it was either titanium or stainless steel insert) but the Jeanie was already out of the bottle and they were dropped. Would love a new one, in particular one of the Henry brand as the finishes are absolutely beautiful. The company would sell you all you wanted for ten bucks apiece, but a gun that tried to cut itself in half was doomed to failure. I wish I had known Hornady was going to discontinue them, I would have stocked up on them. 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Henry is finally putting out some side loading gate models, while still retaining the muzzle end magazine tube, so as to make them easier and safer to unload. And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. Maximum Expansion HP 157 38spl 38 1150fps, Traditions Outfitter G3 Single Shot .357 Magnum 22" Black / Silver CR571130, Rossi R92 Carbine .357 Magnum 20" Gold Barrel Bands 923572013-GLD, Benjamin Bulldog, Ben Bpbd3s Bulldog 357 Syn, Uberti 1873 Trapper Carbine Rifle .357 Magnum 16.125" Walnut 342435, Uberti 1873 Special Sporting Rifle .357 Magnum 24.25" Octagon Walnut 342760, Chiappa 1892 Lever Action Rifle .357 Magnum 20" 10 Rds Walnut 920.129, Chiappa 1892 Lever Action Trapper Carbine .357 Mag 16" 8 Rds 920.335, Cimarron 1892 Carbine 20" Octagon CCH .357MAG 10+1 AS622 EZ PAY $126, Taylor Uberti 1873 Trapper .357MAG 18" Pistol Grip 10+1 550202 EZ PAY $147, Cimarron 1892 Lever Action Rifle .357 Magnum 20" Walnut 10 Rounds AS621, Cimarron Uberti 1894 26" .38-55 6+1 CA2903 EZ PAY $117. I bought a brandified new Ruger .357 revolver just as this lockdown crap started. Also, the Contender comes in longer barrel lengths than the 7.5 and 10.5 inch barrels that Ruger made the Blackhawk with for the .357 Rem. and i personally think the word tactical and the word options are interchangeable. It has always had a good trigger but now it has one of those Ive fired it about 50,000 times trigger jobs and is as smooth and sweet as any trigger Ive owned. Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. Read Their Fine Print!! Id bet the old timers that rode the wild and woolly west would have liked the magnum in a rifle. Also, at higher velocities, the bullet is able to realize a flatter trajectory meaning longer shots are possible. New in the Box. .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). Which was ".357 maximum Auto Rimless." The moniker ".357 Max AR" stuck with the round for 3 reasons, 1) it was a 5.56 case expanded to straightwall, maximizing its capacity, 2) it uses load data very similar to the 357 Maximum rimmed revolver cartridge, and 3) the "Max-AR," Auto Rimless, was really only meant for use in AR-15's . Chiefs Special, 6 Python and Henry in 357. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/lever-action-ballistics-30-30-vs-357-magnum/, The original (factory) Marlin review: For the more meticulous shooters and those who like to experiment with the widest variety of bullet types. .358" jacketed, .357" jacketed, and cast lead bullets, just ask them to send the barrel to me to chamber for $105 post paid to you, billed separately by me. But it was attached to the saddle..which was (hopefully) attached to the horse. Can we get some more ideas? (left) vs. .357 Magnum (Right). I have shot a buddys 357, think it was Italian, a couple times as he is into Cowboy Action..not my thing but fun to watch! There'll be no market for it. I have one with the turnstile safety. 317 1 Image (s) Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway Gun #: 945177475 Seller: Sportsmans Legacy GA Sales: 739 $1,750.00 Full Details 1 Image (s) ROSSI R-92 LEVER RIFLE .357 MAGNUM Gun #: 942851574 Seller: Alpha Omega Services LLC $948.60 Wear issues in revolvers appeared early.
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