Rifle Specs: M6A2 PSD 8.5 in bbl. FMJ bullet at about 3,000 fps in my examples. The trajectory of a 55gr .243 round at 4000 odd fps is very different to a 100gr at 3000 fps. While seeing these numbers is nice, they arent exact. Chances are youll be very close, if not dead on. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSRs, & high-speed gear. Accuracy Profile: Ballistic Advantage 16 Inch SPR. This affords me the ability to be a little more precise on smaller targets out to 200-250 yards without hold-overs. If youve read all this and still arent sure of the answer, start with a 50 yard zero and go from there. Thanks again and hope you get some rest. Just align your optic on the black dot and bore sight on the gray dot. This includes 10.3 and 14.5 using 55g IMI and 77g Mk262 and BH equivalents. Frankly, I dont think one zeroing scheme is better than another. Sight in at fifty yards so that most of the group (5 -10 shots) falls in the lower half of the dot. Red dots need to take advantage of a point and shoot zero like any of the other options. For the heavier rounds, I'd zero, as jc says, 1" high at 100 yards. Sorry about that, thats just the way the chart shows up on my ballistic calculator app. UPDATE: If you want to save even more time on the range, consider using this target for bore sighting at home. Now, since we're converting from a 100 -yard zero trajectory to a 200-yard zero trajectory, we begin by looking at how much we must adjust to rezero to the new But it will stay inside of 5" all the way out to 300 yards and then drop 5 inches at 350 and about 13 inches at 400 yards. Second is the Marine Corps' recommended 36/300 yard BZO. With a 100-yard zero, there is never any "hold under." You only ever dial upwards or hold over. Save Share. If I need to push out a bit farther, I can just hold level with the shoulder line or top of the target for 350 and 400 yards, respectively. Could you run a 100 yard zero through your ballistic program and publish the drop? The bullet is still rising to meet your point of aim at 36 yards, this is why the impact point is low on the target. For all intents and purposes, I dont think youre going to be let down or at a severe disadvantage if you choose either one over the other. Temp was in low 40s, but windchill made it much colder. I still use the 100 yard zero though. It is also just theory until you test it yourself but it should be close to what you can expect. And a rough estimate of velocity for either a 10.5 or 11.5 barrel. The old 100-yard zero is perfect if your longest shooting distance isn't much beyond that. Battle Zero for 5.56 55gr 325 yards equals 297 meters or 300 meters. Zeroing is best conducted by following these steps: Bore sighting Rough Adjustment Shoot a Group Fine Adjustment Optimal Zero Zeroing a carbine with open sights or a red dot at 100 yards isnt intuitive, but the concept has been gaining ground in recent years for certain applications. With the 36 yard zero being fairly non standard should I just avoid it due to most ranges not offering that particular known distance? On the flip side, if you are guarding some tower and the terrain is very open and far, 25 or 36 might be the way to go. You will be able to leave a comment after signing in, AR15Armory.com 36yd zero, then memorize the remaining holds throughout the effective range of my load (bullet's min velocity for expansion, min energy, etc). 1 MOA= roughly 1 at 100 yards (2 at 200 yards.) Here's a table of bullet drop I created out to 300 yards that shows the effect of different zeroing choices. You should of course then verify at one of those distances.). You can also use the top circles as a 200yard zero when aiming at the red squares at 100 yards. Just a fraction of an inch, but I believe 10 yards strikes a useful balance. Its actually pretty fun to take an 11.5 to 750-1000 and show off infront of guys with supped out precision rifle builds. In both exercises I didnt feel I had to work harder to get hits using one zero or the other. Go with whatever you want and simply memorize / write down til you have memorized 3-4-5 other distances where you'd place your dot (Point of Aim / PoA). Cons: Lots of hold under to remember out to 300 yards. I like that idea, if I make another article like this I will see if I can do that. Reply Quote. I highly recommend that you review Frank Proctors video on this zeroing method and my brief comments on how it worked for me before attempting it. To me, the 36 yard zero makes things about as simple as they can get for a multi-purpose rifle that could be used for range, home defense or duty use. It is a simple target with a 1.9 grid and two dots. The table below will include drop data using a 50 yard zero, a 200 yard zero, and 100 yard zero for comparison. All the explaining I'm not going to do is in this video. You can click here to access the PDF. You will get effective hits out to 300. Basically, the 5.56 AR15 is a self-defense weapon so I would stick with the 50 yards zero. Looks more like that. Zero at 36, POA = POI at 300. Find it here on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3aAzerSPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/kotaboy32Email: kotabo. This is a case for Mr. MOA. It may not display this or other websites correctly. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} Has any one had experience with the 36 yard zero? Nice But why are all the charts grayed out? 1.7K 231 gunksmtn1216 6 days ago Its definitely more point and click friendly further out. Out to 300 yards, it's at 6.6" high at 150 yards at is highest flight path, and 0.2" low at 300 yards, giving me a 6.8" trajectory spread out to 300 yards with irons. I'll take it. The goal here is to begin at 100 yards and progressively increase your zero as you improve your shooting skills. He goes over bullet drop for each specific zero, and overall the 36yd zero has the closest gaps from 0-300. I used the Litz test. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} With rifles like the AR15and the typical ranges of the intermediate cartridge(normally within 300 yards), you can manipulate the bullet trajectory. It is a simple method but there are some caveats you will want to keep in mind. 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Nice work. The 36-yard zero is a versatile option, providing an optimal balance between close-range and long-range shooting. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The problem is that it forces you to have to think when to hold under a certain amount on closer targets and when to hold dead on. This should put most of a group in the top half of a one inch dot at twenty-five yards. Now, the arguments that Ive read on each of these techniques could put a good, old fashioned Ford vs. Chevy debate to shame. Makes perfect sense, thanks for the help! Aimpoint Pro RDS at 1/3 cowitness with a 2.625 inch height center of optic to center of bore. If you want to sight in at 50 yards - then just have the shots be 1.3 inches high. Like a lot of those situations, though, the points argued are based on personal bias and the actual differences are pretty minimal. Up to me to do the shooting and fiddle-out the results. The 36 yard zero wins. Get our new posts sent right to your email! Repeated trips walking up and down the range and hopefully you are at least on paper for your first group Well, Frank Proctor, from Way of the Gun, and Jerking the Trigger have come up with a great target. 50 yards is 1/2 inch high, 150 yards 1.5 high. Those gents can shoot and this zero is well thought out. What do you recommend as best Best zero distance for a 22 barrel? Like many of our readers, I am now limited to my closest ranges being indoor. It is a simple method but there are some caveats you will want to keep in mind. It works well because of the compressed distance for which it is designed to be used. Go run this in 25m increments and see if it still falls within your acceptable accuracy standards. It's important to shoot this group from the standing unsupported position. they have figured out a target you can zero on at 10 yards which will give you a 50/200 yard zero for your rifle at range. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.3b33fc17a17cec1345d4_.css.map*/You need to do the maths for your barrel and your ammos; plug your observed fps with your load into a ballistic program with various zero yardages and you should be able to find that perfect zero distance. barfolopew 2 mo. The reason for this is that at distance your hold over won't be as much and . The image shown is not to scale. The graph shows that your .270 Win. In this video I use the Caldwell Precision Tripod. It works but i went back to a 50 yard. The USMC method sees you zero at 36-yards for the initial intersection and that gets you all the way out to 300-yards. Everything is nice and tight until 200 yards or so. The other 2 charts, 50 and 100 are way different as far as bullet drop goes. You should always check your zero at the actual zero distance when possible but this will get you close. (The target is specifically for your AR-15 / M-4. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{vertical-align:middle}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} But the 36 yard zero is flatter out to 300. Just remember, that is a rough estimate based off of the velocities the ballistics app gave me. 36 Yard Zero for .556? .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} Once you learn the bullet drop, then you are left with windage which is the hard part in open country. Brownells Gears Up to Release What Would Stoner Do? Rifles . It is about .1 MIL difference than a 25 yard zero and a 36 yard zero on the SKS is really a 26 to 52 yard zero. Two minutes and a ballistic calculator will show you this zero creates an arching trajectory that rises about 9 above the line of sight at 200 yards. Everything inside 100 yards and past 100 yards you hold high. 09 at 50 yards for a 230 yard zero, max point blank range for deer would be 270 yards. While it is one of those things that needs to be done, no one likes to go zero their rifle. The latest content straight to your inbox plus an automatic entry to each of our monthly gungiveaways! I prefer 200 yard zero for anything meant to shoot beyond 200 yards. Everything is a holdover. No worries! I'll take that. What is the POI at 100 yards with a 50/200 zero? certified instructor prior to handling any firearm and be sure to read your owners manual. At ten yards, you will be POA/POI with a ten yard zero, but you will find that at other distances, your hold over and hold under will change drastically. Look up Max Point Blank Range, or MPBR. Aim at the waist and you will hit the chest. If you are hunting in the woods your shooting range should not extend beyond 200 or 300 yards. In ballistic ae for example you can set a vital zone radius and in the chart it will give you the zero range and max range to hit inside that radius with no hold or adjustment. I maped them all out on a big piece of paper. Lets remember this is a speedy way to start zeroing, but you arnt zeroed unless you confirm AT the zero distance. To me this makes the 100 yard zero a perfect choice for a carbine that will be used in close terrain where long shots will be limited. Been using this for about a year. It is a very fast way to zero which is very convenient for me since many carbines are in a constant state of flux as I try various items for review. Posted February 16, 2015 in Optics, Rifles by Nathan S with 22 CommentsTags: City Shooting, JTT, Making Things Easy, targets. There is no remembering hold unders, you just aim a little high inside 100 and keep going higher past 100. Therefore, with a 26-yard zero, you can hold on the target and expect to hit a 6-inch vital zone from 0 . Ballistic Advantage is one of the household names in AR15 barrel manufacturing. A quick copy of the original article is below and you can link to it directly by clicking here. Pull trigger. 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Once you get to the 4 MOA they tend to cover your target at distance and your aim is kinda spray and pray. Never rely on a ballistic calculator, rely on the data your rifle gives you from actually shooting! 1 Quote CENTURIATOR Banned 347 Location:Saint Louis Posted November 14, 2018 I prefer to zero at 36 yards, for the reasons provided in the video above. I do them at 75 yards but then I don't shoot enough to speak much on this . Its always given me good results out to the max 250yd shots I typically have, in the area I work. Long range rifles are a different story. a red circle on a white backdrop would probably be . And the process begins all over. But that is also the round itself not the zeros fault. Remember that the hold-overs and hold-unders are in MOA. Also, a - means hold under and a + means to hold over. Not really sure how to zero this in, Johnny, its not his fault that you are old. The only category in which the 36 y zero loses is it produces that greatest rise along the trajectory, and that's at 100 yards (1.29"). Sidearm Sunday: Is .30 Super Carry Worth it? Don't overthink this. 36 Yard Zero for .556? When zeroed at 25 yards the round will also be zeroed at 300 yards. inches to zero at 200 yards. Horse-shoes & handgrenades Its within 2 inches of point of aim all the way from 10 yards out to 200 yards. Live The Armory Life. Breezy as all get out; torso target and the plastic uprights kept rocking forward as wind was coming from 12 o'clock. Zeroing (also called sighting-in) is the process of adjusting your rifle's sighting apparatus (iron sights, electronic optic or riflescope) until its point-of-aim (POA) is calibrated to the bullets' point-of-impact (POI). The bottom dot on the 0:0 axis is where the bullet would hit if you were aiming at a target 25 yards away with a 36yd zero which is approximately -.72 below your point of aim. It will cross your line of sight twice; once at where you zeroed it, and once again when the bullet starts to drop. Thanks for the video, I'm probably just gonna give it a shot next time at the range to see how it feels. When you shoot a rifle, if the rifle was perfectly level with the ground, gravity starts to pull the bullet down immediately, so the bullet would hit low at 100 yards. 10 Yard Zeroing Target While it is one of those things that needs to be done, no one likes to go zero their rifle. That means from 0-100 yards you only need to be concerned with your height over bore when shooting a target. Pros: Very flat shooting. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Redo it with a 3 scope height and 2750 FPS please. But if the range of your target could be anywhere out to 300 yards, your best choice among those shown is the 36 yard zero. I have been using a 25 yard zero for a while but wanted something that was a little less complicated as far as hold overs goat longer ranges. Long Range Precision Shooting: Can the AR-15 and AR-10 be Included in the Discussion? 36 yard zero or 25 yard danielosborn1994 Feb 11, 2023 The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana Member Benefits: Fewer Ads! Otherwise a 100-yard zero wastes your bullet's trajectory potential. Jerking the Trigger posted up a quick target that allows us city-slickers to use available resources to our advantage. While a 36/300 yard zero is great for open land, I find it to have a higher than wanted POI over POI in the 75-150 yard range for a CQB type gun. Since one MOA equals 2" at 200 yards, that 5.4 inches at 200 yards equals 2.7 MOA - which is exactly what we will apply in Step Two to all other distances. Thanks for all the great info on your site! 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But this should be a very close estimation. A 25 yard zero yields roughly a 1/2" hold over at 10 yards, but will be POA/POI at 25. You should zero at 30 yards, and then you can shoot out to 220 yards. This should give you a 4" point blank range from the muzzle out to nearly 200 yards. This is a great video. 36 yard zero Pros: Will get you out to 300 yards. Should I just go with a 50 yard zero since it is a a tighter holdat ranges? What ballistics calculator app are the screenshots from? Tungsten penetrator ). If youre concerned about getting a good zero at 100 yards, you can always start at 50, adjusting so that your impacts are about low, and then confirming at 100 yards. Oops, there's been an error. You can actually take an 11.5 out to 1000 yards with a 32 ish yard zero. (5.56 62gr. However, lets be honest in the hands of the average shooter, this combination is probably good for 3 MOA on a good day. Shawn is correct based on this analysis. Screenshot_20200214-094614_Strelok Pro.jpg. All that being said, the 50 yard zero continues to be one of my favorite zeroing schemes because its versatile, proven and effective. Easy. By Using a target like the Langdon Tactical Target, shoot 3 rounds at a 2-inch circle, 10 yards away. Logistically, it may also be easier for some shooters to get a 50 yard zero since many ranges may not have the facilities available to set up and shoot 36 yards. Make the charts mil or moa based and redo your anslysis. Pros: This zero can take your 10.5 AR out to 250 yards. At the range I ran through some drills to work on accuracy and precision. Thanks. 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The 36 yard zero is favored by the US Marines. articles and videos are considered to be suggestions and not recommendations from Springfield Armory. They have offered solid products for years andread more , Yesterday I stopped by the range for a quick day of shooting and testing my new ammunition. Often no time for hold over , hold under ect. Great summary. ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} The black represents your point of aim. - AR15.COM Precision Rifles Marksmanship CMMG - New 9mm Dissent now available Speed Racer, Airforce Vet, and President of TNVC | Ep 025 w/ Victor DiCosola 36 Yard Zero for .556? Sighting-in a hunting rifle to hit a certain number of inches high at 100 yards (or 100 meters) maximizes the point blank range of the rifle and cartridge and is superior to zeroing at a fixed distance like 200 yards. 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