shimano ultegra vs 105

You pay the same price that you would have done anyway. D'où une envie de repartir propre, à zéro et apprendre avec les copains mécanos du club à installer / régler / entretenir ce nouveau groupe. As you discuss only 11 speed groupsets, my question is about upgrading from 105 10s to 105 11s or even Ultegra 11s? Thanks for the article, it came at the right time for me as I am looking for a new bike and still ponder between 105 and Ultegra…. Replace your cassette every two chains. Have you tried both? Je ne suis pas sûr que les 105 d'aujourd'hui soient autant conçus pour durer que les 105 d'il y a 8 ans. (And please remember to hit ‘Like’ on the video – it really helps me out with the YouTube algorithm – many fanks). Shimano brought out a new version of its 105 groupset in 2018, but how does it compare to the top of the range Dura-Ace? 10s 105 or Ultegra can be used with XT deore cassettes (sometimes derailleur needs to be changed) and this can allow expanded gear ratios for climbing. I have an aluminum Specialized and now upgrading to carbon. Shimano's concern with the 105 was to enhance difficult shifts — notably, inward shift in the back and outward shift in the front. Yo! Maybe, for once, the trickledown effect of high spec features gradually moving down the price spectrum won’t apply in the case of 105 electrification. Ever since Shimano finally succeeded with index shifting in the 1984, real improvements in groupsets start at the highest end and then trickle down the component line as models are REFRESHED. Now a (very) quick canter through the different elements of the groupset: If you want more of an idea then this article provides a pretty comprehensive overview of the various group sets on the market. It came with a full Shimano 105 groupset (5700 – model range number fans). The key thing is to enjoy what your bike and to make it comfortable for you. The price difference between 105 and Ultegra is about $300 dollars. My other wheelsets use proper cartridge bearings all round and never need adjustment, so for my next project (another titanium frame) I will buy up a new just taken off a bike 105 groupset and try and find some good used wheels. Once you find the problem change the chain and cassette then adjust alignment and the B screw. In summary, both of them weigh about 2.5kg. A post by Monty from a year or two talked about a custom bike fitting service and that really struck me: for $30-400 you are measured with lasers to ensure the perfect bike fit. It might not look traditional hard core but it screams common sense. 11s is the newest and will have spare and replacement parts available longer, and that, I believe is the biggest advantage. Vu les roues livrées d'origine, perso je prendrais la version R7000 et je garderais les 400 EUR pour mettre dans une paire de roues style Fulcrum Racing 3 avec de meilleurs pneus que ceux d'origine. I just did this on my Domane – new cables, cassette, chain, brake pads and chain rings – recorded in this series of YouTube videos – and the improvement has been amazing. Bof, un peu d'huile sur mon 105, des entretiens faits à temps et roulez jeunesse, Monsieur Shi ne m'aura pas! You get some idea of the relative costs though. Rather than you changing gear physically by pulling on (or releasing) a cable, electronic shifting uses little motors attached to the front and rear derailleurs in order to make the changes. But on a limited budget I would prioritize: – Frame (really the most important decision) – Wheels – Saddle – Groupset (and I could easily live with 105 5800). De là une longévité de 8 ans déjà avec zéro problème en 105. Circle diameter where bolts for chainrings should be is the same for both and means that all chainring sizes are compatible. like a silly hump for your thumbs to get annoyed by. Where to buy Shimano 105 and Ultegra components:http://tidd.ly/bb708aebhttp://amzn.to/2EuZZgjLet's talk about these components: https://goo.gl/aLujxw Make sure the upgraded bike has the full Ultegra group – crankset, bottom bracket, chain, brakes, shifters, cassette. il y a environ 200g d'écart entre un Ultegra et un 105 à cassette similaire. The perception of ‘better’ is is always what fuels sales of higher end products. I didn’t love it, but did like the price and the components. The 105 has a bit more ‘heft’. the 2015 Ultegra. Spend the money you save by upgrading the wheelset. Posted 11 years ago But two huge advantages. This assumes that you are able to go big/big with the shortened chain. That might or might not be important to you. If not then they are likely ok and I wouldn’t change them. As we begin to understand what we like and what we don’t like, after that 10,000 shift, we begin to appreciate ulegra and it’s smoothness. Hear about each post as soon as I publish. Given I’m more Nosferatu than Nostradamus, this probably means that 105 Di2 is going to be announced tomorrow. Does the weight make a difference? Modifier mon abonnement aux réponses de ce sujet, Retour au forum Route > Matériel Haut de page, Tous droits réservés 2000-2021 © I can tell the components aren’t as “shiny” but almost felt more at home with the 105. Hi all, I am fairly new to cycling. But the extra ‘spacing; between cogs would have been nice. This should not be the case. Abonnement aux newsletters If so, I like the 105 bike more. I appreciate your comments . Presently my bike has a 40 cog with a compact 50-34 crank. If Dura-Ace is the top of Shimano’s range of groupsets for road bikes (don’t worry, it is), Ultegra occupies second place in the list; 105 is third. Of course the chain is also thinner in 11s. (Fun fact, Shimano put index shifting first in entry level models pre-1984, it was an abysmal failure until they put it in their top of the line Dura-Ace). Purists might point to a little more finesse in the Ultegra front and rear derailleur, but there’s not much in it. Des réponses qui vont toutes dans le même sens. Le Potenza est proche du Shimano Ultegra et du SRAM Force. Well, have a squiz at the full groupset images above. Campagnolo does not include pedals with its … As things wear, replace them with a higher grade chain and cassette. (*By Kraftwerk, if there’s any justice in the world). The consensus amongst the online cyclo-rati is that there’s not much in it. So now is the time to consider whether upgrading from Shimano 105, a perfectly functional bike groupset, to Shimano Ultegra, a perfectly functional bike groupset, will take you from dog-dog to Froome-dog. Le reste est une affaire de prestige. And the price. Si les deux vélos entre lesquels tu hésites sont de la même gamme d’un même constructeur, regarde bien ces détails. Not sure if anyone is still active on this post or not, but thought I’d give it a try. Car dans ce cas ils devraient en avoir tout un stock , invendable certainement! By way of example, the Cannondale Synapse (non-carbon) 105 costs £1,300. I too have a Domane 4.3 but 2014 model. Showing the actual prices just complicates things further.). Pedals are lighter, wider, and Shimano bearings have never failed me. Shimano 105 has recently been given a facelift, making it look very similar to it's more expensive counterparts. Shimano 105 contre Ultegra (trop ancien pour répondre) Eric LAMBERT 2004-08-23 06:42:31 UTC. See, I told you it wasn’t clear but. But it will be interesting to compare the two. That said, my bike is setup for 126mm dropouts and is a 7 gear rear with downtube shifters. No, it will. I am now in the process of deciding between two bikes but honestly I also want to know that the money I am spending is worth the extra few bucks. I’m certainly not elite and with the roads in our area, I ride a Diverge that is 2Kg+ heavier than most road bikes . In the meantime I’ll go back to my heavy, but rugged Diverge that is probably 6 pounds heavier than most of your bikes, and still runs well on Sora . Since the model years overlap, Shimano maintains the difference in overlapping years in the form of weight (use slightly different metals/parts on the largest pieces to save weight) and finish (higher groupsets will look nicer and follow finishing trends/colors from the pro-peloton) as well as staggering the technology changes. But the thing is, that all occurred in the previous generation of these two groupsets. Il deviendra le groupe de choix des nouveaux adeptes désireux de s'entraîner et de participer à des épreuves plus difficiles. Thanks Andrew. Cyclistes considèrent de 105 un ensemble de composants de formation de haute qualité, ou "gruppo", tandis que Ultegra est mieux adapté pour la course. Un peu plus de fluidité? Which I am part of neither! Pourtant, cette nouvelle mouture pourrait faire changer d’avis de nombreux utilisateurs. Well, let’s face it. Right now I ride about 20-30 miles 2-3 days a week. Monty is an enthusiastic road cyclist with only moderate talent. Do you ride with Ultegra? I had to have the front retuned about 750 miles ago. (Harry Enfield I’m considerably richer than you). Again a value to the LBS. You talked about wheels and I strongly agree that lighter wheels make a huge performance and fun improvement. None the wiser, that’s where. je pense que tu as eu des problèmes suite à des défauts d'entretien. Yup you’re exactly right but I there’s one thing to keep in mind with “keeping a frame forever”. Healthy disclaimer though – the prices seem a bit all over the place. Still, it gives the general direction of travel (i.e. Le vélociste m’ayant dit que c’etait la seule différence, j’ai choisi la version en 105. My advice would be to focus on the frame and get as much 105 on there or better at the start, though I believe RS500 cranks are comparable to 105. Back in the day, there was a big difference in smoothness of shifting, also weight between the groupsets. The earlier SPD-SL (three-bolt style) pedals had flat plastic plates that can be replaced for like .99, but of course Ultegra were slightly different shape from the Dura-ace, so you needed to clip a corner off first-trivial. If you click on an Affiliate Link and then buy something, I get a small commission. As we spend more time on the bike and rack up the miles, it makes sense to upgrade assuming your bike fit is dialed in. Sit back, relax, neck an energy gel and get ready to talk groupsets. Still have the 105 calipers, so I think that is the only remnant of the original groupset. Most of the change allows closer gearing in the middle of the cassette. ", " Bon, tu peux avoir des moments de pas de chance, mais les uns à la suite des autres comme ça, je soupçonne que le suivi mécanique aurait dû être plus poussé. Forum There is zero difference in any of the moving parts in shape or function. And like a cyclist in a pan of gradually heating water, you don’t really notice each incremental improvement. The only thing I can’t speak to is the 105 brakeset, since I have Avid disc brakes on the cross bike. Well, perhaps a little bit wiser. These are just some points to consider. These real differences matter because many parts need to change/are incompatible between these lines (for instance from 10-11 speed, you need a thinner chain, new cassette, new rear derailleur, freehub body, and brake/shifter levers, though the crank/chainrings are compatible though Shimano will tell you otherwise). Hey Andrew, Thanks for this comparison. I suggest you go to a different bike shop, tell them you are just shopping but not ready to buy and you want to try size 54 and 52 bikes to see which is more comfortable. You finally succumb to the rule of n+1 and you start looking for your first ‘proper’ road bike. Then you start looking into gears a bit more. Hydraulic shifters & brakes. Unless your derailleur is bent I wouldn’t change it. Pay a couple of hundred quid more and you’d be into Ultegra territory. Regarding 10s vs 11s you likely won’t notice a difference. The newest all have stainless plates which should last much longer, but again look different on each model, a totally cosmetic aspect that pisses me off, and so far I have NOT found these plates to be available separately; cleats being plastic should wear first, but another quibble with the designers and the young customers who never experienced old school parts that could actually be serviced and rebuilt. Clearly if you want electronic shifting, then Ultegra is, for now, your only option. On espérait une version électrique en DI2, il faudra encore attendre. I’m sure a scouring of the internet would allow you to add up the weight of each individual component. But would change to a 52-36 chainset on my next build. This is some serious riding you put on! When I knackered the front derailleur, I replaced it with the equivalent Ultegra version (10-speed 6700). Le 105 fait le job, et même très bien. Ultegra components are lighter than 105 components, making climbing easier. If you think 70g weight difference in shifters the pair (5800-6800) is going to make you faster than me good. Now will I ever like Carbon as much as Titanium? Je ne vois que le groupe en différences. Permalink. I am hoping to increase both miles and how many times per week, possibly to join a riding group as well. Les câbles sont plus basique sur le 105, je crois... Est ce que ça vaut 200€ ? Magazine, Photos There’s really nothing in it. Question pièce d'usure, mes chaines s'usent assez vite (en 2 ans j'en suis à ma 4eme et depuis la 2eme c'est pas faute de les nettoyer tous les 500km et à chaque pluie), par contre mes cassettes ne bougent pas. I’m no Froome-dog and I’ve only returned to cycling reasonably seriously in the last 3 years but my experience is that there’s little between them (unless, of course you want the electronic do-dah). Any opinions? The sole differences I can see are a different plastic material in the bodies (the shape is identical) and composite plastic levers instead of aluminium alloy. I have tried this myself and can vouch for it. En mettant la technologie à la portée de tous, SHIMANO 105 continuera de motiver toujours plus de cyclistes à repousser leurs limites. C'est un Wilier GTR team, très peu de différence mais je vais vérifier. C'est la seule différence entre les 2 vélos. Shimano didn’t come out with a ‘105 Di2 5870’. J'aime bien bricoler mais j'aime encore bien plus rouler. Alors soit Cannondale a des groupes négociés par cher avec shim pour ses 1ere montes et je suis tombé sur une mauvaise série ou alors le 105 n'est plus ce qu'il était. My blog contains Affiliate Links. how stupid is that? I had a Cannondale 2.8 from the mid 90’s. what does this turd know I hear you say to yourself in your head. They’re available from ‘the internet’ in some cases for less than half the recommended price. Bon choix. I don’t mind spending $90 for calipers…the best brakes you can buy is never a bad choice in my opinion. Assuming you’re working across compatible families, this is certainly possible. And so the world turns. All from a MAMIL perspective. Dreraillers had to be changed to match the shifter. These chain sets are built with unequal spacing to minimize the stress it endures when you pedal. I agree, when you are ready, or when your bike is ready, make the leap to ultegra. La nouvelle série ULTEGRA R8000 a été éprouvée sur le circuit professionnel. The alignment is a quick adjustment. If your bike shop doesn’t find anything wrong, try having them shorten the chain by one pair of links. As things wear you can upgrade to Ultegra if you want, or you can experiment with changes. I’m a little late getting in on this, but I just got a bike with Ultegra 6800, and wanted to chime in. I have been looking at carbon fiber, Trek, Specialized and Cannondale…there’s so MANY options. Aluminum would have snapped long ago, with any flexing at all. The price jump from the mid-range Ultegra to the high dollar Dura Ace is a whopping $700 or more. This was all very helpful, and gives me some more information to consider before making my choice! Dans mon cas, si je les avais regardés j’aurais choisi l’ultegra plutôt que le 105. Quant aux différences avec l'ultegra, de ce que j'ai pu lire mais j'ai pas testé, ultegra aurait : un meilleur freinage, un passage de vitesse plus rapide et plus fluide et est étudié pour faire + de km / an. talk of slightly crisper shifting, smoother shifting, faster, easier shifting or difference in durability has me laughing. Interesting and thoughtful comment. Chain only showed very little change, but the new chain and cassette had a very noticeable improvement. superficial difference in the lever tops which I would guess is to stop you from putting Ultegra nameplates on 105 levers. Shimano Ultegra et 105, ainsi que le haut de gamme Dura-Ace représentent différents niveaux de niveau compétitif les composants de la route Shimano. If it is over 1% change the chain and cassette. The 105 5800 groupset I bought complete with wheels and tyres for £230 was a real bargain and I found that overall it performed better than my ultegra 6700 groupset except that the brakes are not as well finished. So, for instance, in the article, 11 speed first appears in 2012 in Dura-Ace (9000), then a year later in Ultegra (6800), and then two years later in 105 (5800) and has yet to appear in the Tiagra line (presumably the 4800). I am very happy to be corrected, but from my understanding of Shimano, and what I have seen posted here, this year’s Ultegra are next year’s 105 – so the 2017 105 should equal (or exceed?) Congrats. Some misc thoughts: Titanium frames are essentially permanent; ie, there is actually zero measurable loss of resilience over time, especially from the miniscule stresses a bike frame feels, compared to radical loads of say an airplane. J'ai regardé la fiche du vélo https://www.wilier.com/fr/produits/int/road/gtr-team et j'ai pas compris dans les variantes la différence entre le groupe ultegra R8000 et ultegra R8000 2.0 50g plus lourd (8,4 vs 8,35). But the shifting was better but I was disappointed with the wheels shimano still do cones and cups for wheel bearings, and the cassette freewheel had lots of play . Get enjoyable and helpful cyclo-info straight to your inbox. We awarded both Shimano 105 and Ultegra 10/10 for performance, and we give out very few 10/10 marks. Aide / FAQ, Votre publicité I stopped short of replacing the rear derailleur or the shifters. This has the potential to maximise comfort and, most importantly, performance far more than by choosing one iteration or another of Shimano’s group sets. ultegra-change a couple of materials to save a haircut in weight, tiagra-put 10 teeth on the ratchet wheel instead of 11. i’m considering a Cannondale Slate. Par ex en 2 ans mon étrier arrière a du être dégrippé (il ne se désserrait plus complètement, gênant que le patin reste collé à la jante...) et son levier d'écartement rapide ne fonctionne plus et n'est pas démontable/réparable car sur le 105 il y a un rivet là où il y a une vis sur l'étrier ultegra... Mes galets étaient HS de chez HS (au point d'avoir la chaine qui sautait du galet du bas, mais seulement en côte de 10% et + sinon c'est pas drole...) en moins de 2 ans / 9000km alors que d'autres copains n'ont toujours pas eu besoin de les changer. there is no difference that would give rise to a different shifting experience in reality (I studied mechanical engineering degree level at university, I have reasonably trained opinion I think). https://www.sportivecyclist.com/shimano-105-vs-ultegra-is-it-worth-it-to-upgrade Currently I am riding a 20 year old mountain bike on paved trails. I think what I’m about to write is something of a cyclo-cliché, but that has never stopped me before, so… 105 is the first of Shimano’s “serious” or “proper” groupsets. Développement : Florent LigneyWebdesign : Véronique Vilmant, Accueil There are a lot of new bikes out there with 30 and 32 tooth largest cogs. I will note that my current bike is Ultegra, I got it 2 years back. But, by then it was 11 speed all around and the rear fork distance has move out a couple of millimeters. Il veut dire que le vélo décathlon est en shimano 105 alors que l'autre est en shimano tiagra pour la majorité et dans la gamme shimano le 105 et au dessus du tiagra. Is that the case? Any help or advise is greatly appreciated. I did read that about the span being more than an actual year. Le Veloce se rapproche du Shimano 105 et du SRAM Rival. Speaking to a few data points in the ‘endurance bike’ category (all of which are carbon frames): (For the USD prices, I just converted the UK prices at $1.29:£1 to give an indication. I would spend my money getting a comfortable frame with 105 components. we’re probably due an update of the Dura Ace range next). (okay, I couldn’t be bothered to Google what it stands for). For function or longevity is it worth the price, can’t be as they’re the same. The 5700 105, 6700 ultegra shifter design was horribly uncomfortable and the reason I changed. And I am not a purist. que tu. I am trying to choose between a 2015 Cannodale CAAD 10 105 for $1100 or a Cannondale CAAD 10 with Ultegra for $1750. En bas de la gamme, de l’alu et du plastique; en haut, du carbone, des roulements céramiques et de la visserie titane. With the Ultegra’s, it is almost always an immediate shift and just enough feedback to know it went, but not enough to be annoying. Ooh, I seem to be first. Side by side, the Ultegra materials look more premium. Disons qu'il a surtout plus de prestige, mais le plus, ce sont tes jambes qui l'apporteront. Very helpful article as I am looking to upgrade from Sora. Vidéos If you feel a difference, it is a placebo effect. Le mien a 71.000 km et 8 ans, rien à dire, c'est parfait. "je pense que tu as eu des problèmes suite à des défauts d'entretien. Bon, tu peux avoir des moments de pas de chance, mais les uns à la suite des autres comme ça, je soupçonne que le suivi mécanique aurait dû être plus poussé. Et le cas échéant, si elle vaut 400 euros? I’ve done this myself, with my 10-speed 105 5700 groupset. Thank you for any advise I greatly appreciate it. Both bikes are new and and both had 22 gears. J'ai eu des jantes creusées mais le groupe, lui, un changement de cables et de cassette au bout de 4 ans, sinon jamais rien de spécial. As far as everything else, the difference between the 6800 and 5800 is negligible except for the rear derailleur and shifter. Since I know you were all particularly taken by the concept of each groupset have a name and a number, Ultegra Di2 is also known by its East German spy code of R8050. Other features (frame, wheelset) can move the price point of the whole range, independent of groupset. Begin! Since you're here, Monty would also like you to check out. Les différences entre le 105 et Shimano Shimano Ultegra peuvent être légère, mais les comprendre peut faire le choix du bon vélo Inscriptions en ligne He started Sportive Cyclist in 2013 to record the journey to his first 100 mile ride, the RideLondon 100. Contact Might upgrade though to S105 11s now if the price delta is acceptable. That was many words, but I missed the part of describing how 105 performs differently from Ultegra apart from the weight. I doubt I can tell the difference as I’ve only been riding recreationally (75-100 miles weekly) for 2 years. Mais là aussi des soucis, fin de l'hiver même après changement de cables et réglage par le vélociste (dont je ne mets pas en doute le savoir-faire), le 52/11 passait toujours pas bien. Et je vais peut-être songer à une nouvelle chaine au printemps, le luxe. I remember when test riding bikes that the Ultegra shifters “felt” better than the 105. Ultegra is a huge massive jump up from 105 as far as i'm concerned. You should check that the rear wheel can be used with both 10s and 11s – this will only come into play if you decide to change later from 10s to 11s. Shimano 105 . There does not seem to be a great deal of difference between the two. L'idéal pour toi serait de laisser le RS10 au magasin, négocier leur remplacement par des Zonda avec le groupe Ultegra sur ton vélo à 400€ de plus que le vélo basique en 105. Les 400 EUR permettent de gagner... 50 grammes seulement d'après la fiche du constructeur ! For the time being, only Ultegra and it’s pro-sibling Dura-Ace have electronic rather than mechanical gear shifts. The Cannondale Synapse Carbon 105 2021 model costs £2,200 ($2,838) whilst the Ultegra version is £2,700 ($3,483); Specialized Roubaix Sport (with 105) costs £2,750 ($3,548); the Roubaix Comp (Ultegra) comes in at £3,500 ($4,515). D'où l'envie de passer à un autre groupe en espérant tomber sur une meilleure série... et avec un entretien nickel dès le départ je me dis que je serai moins embêté par le matériel. I’ll know in 10 or 20 years! The question is whether the difference is worth the money. The front derailleur, shifter, crank, shifting force, noise, etc., are indistinguishable (unless you took them off and put them on a scale). As far as I know 11s road and mtn are not interchangeable. The different combos of what might comprise your chosen groupset (e.g disc brakes versus rim) makes trying to come up with a useful summary very difficult. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. I assume both bikes are 10s. That time occurs before you buy your bike, roughly a week after you’ve bought your bike, then on a weekly basis until you cycle off this mortal coil. What is your skill level and how much riding will you do? All the more so if the new component’s improved performance is held back by an otherwise, ahem, moderately maintained drivetrain. S’il n’y a vraiment que le groupe comme différence , ma reco sera exactement la même que celle de Jean Christophe. I agree with Jack, start with selecting a frame on a good bike. Le design n’a pas grand chose à envier aux Dura-Ace et Ultegra. The cassette started as a Deore XT 11-36. Then as things start to wear out upgrade. I’m not a pro rider and I just use my bike for city riding. You won’t generally see Ultegra specified on aluminium frames. And the wheel doesn’t work with 11s. I have a solution for you: I madez a YouTube on the subject. I can say, though, that the Ultegra brakes are amazing. Shimano 105 R7000 hydraulic vs Shimano 105 RS505 hydraulic. It’s worth noting that some bike makers do an aluminium-framed version of their end above bikes, fitted with Shimano 105. they appear to be made of the same materials also but I haven’t done a Vickers hardness test. If you click on an Affiliate Link and then buy something, I get a small commission. Cyclosport Because they’re both in the current ‘design generation’ (is that what we’d call it), they both share the modern-looking chunky crank design. Whether a bike has disc or rim brakes affects price quite considerably. And it lets one run a larger range cassette. My soft tail Ti mtb is going on 17 years, and the flexing chainstays move hundreds of thousands of times with no apparent change. 105 stayed firmly mechanical. Why yes friend, it does. The 40 cog is aftermarket, and I took out the 11 cog to make it work. Sometimes it’ll change immediately, with hardly any noise, sometimes there will be a slight delay and a definite clunk when it goes. My bike is a Trek Domane 4.3 (the 2013 version), which at the time cost £1,800. You are not riding great distances yet, and you don’t want a poorly fitted bike to destroy your riding enjoyment. Tu as un outil de comparaison entre vélo sur le site de Wilier....pratique. If you are just getting started, it will not make a difference. The origin story of the term Di2 is shrouded in mystery…. ", Ben, j'ai ramené 3 fois mon vélo chez le vélociste en 2 mois sans que ça change grand chose... mécano pourtant réputé sur la place. Suite à des épreuves plus difficiles version ), choix entre Shimano 105 de! 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